I do not have a link to where it was mentioned, but someone mentioned that nerfs are supposed to have a 'kick' attack.

Nerfs are not in the horse category for special commands.  Nerfs use the goat category and can have the specials 'charge' and 'slash'.  The horse category has 'bite' and 'kick'.

Just wanted to clear this up that this is not a bug.

I do not have a link to where it was mentioned, but someone mentioned that nerfs are supposed to have a 'kick' attack.

Nerfs are not in the horse category for special commands.  Nerfs use the goat category and can have the specials 'charge' and 'slash'.  The horse category has 'bite' and 'kick'.

Just wanted to clear this up that this is not a bug.

Don't make me quote rule #6

emii2008 wrote:

Dont tell me what to do, YOU DONT PAY FOR MY SUB!

Don't make me quote rule #6

Allowing the player to start moving 5 (or 10) seconds before being flagged should be simple enough. I'm not sure about making the player attackable but unable to attack, I don't know off hand if there's code in place to allow me to restrict that easily. 

clonecenter-resident wrote:

Hjal wrote:

 

Just a quick note since it seems to have been an exciting couple of days on the forums. I've been knocked out by the flu so I haven't acted (or responded) to any of the feedback yet. I should be back to work tomorrow.

I'm going to look at making some of the suggested restrictions to the command. I expect that restricting movement will be the easiest, it would also give the person going overt a chance to change his mind.

Hopefully, once GU16 hits TC/TC-Prime we'll be able to get some firsthand experience with this and other changes.

The commands are currently called something like /spacePvpRebel and /spacePvpImperial

It allows Neutrals to flag themselves for PvP as well. Like factional player, you have to land or die to stop being flagged for PvP

Thanks for putting up with us.  Even though we act like children sometimes (ok, most of the time)

My main concern with forcing the user to stop moving is that they become, literally, a sitting duck.  It would lead to the guy who is trying to get into the fight, getting ganked before he can even move.

A lot of people seem to be prefering the idea of allowing the user to move during the timer, but making the user vulnerable to attack as soon as he uses it, and unable to deal damage for 30 seconds.  This forces him to fly defensively for 30 seconds without being able to retaliate (preventing him from gaining an advantageous position over another pilot) but also allows him to keep up with the fight if it moves away from the spot where he initially flagged.

I don't know if this would be significantly harder to code than the "sit still" version, but i think it would be more useful, less punishing, and a lot of posters seem to agree.  Personally, if i know that i have to sit still for 30 seconds while everyone around me is lining up shots on me, i probably won't be using the command too often, since it would basically be a longer, slower version of /esc yes.    It would be a lot less onerous if the user could at least move for the last 5 seconds.  Just as long as they are not sitting perfectly still the instant they pop overt.

Allowing the player to start moving 5 (or 10) seconds before being flagged should be simple enough. I'm not sure about making the player attackable but unable to attack, I don't know off hand if there's code in place to allow me to restrict that easily. 

So you do get GCW points for 'factional privateers'? For example a pilot who's a rebel on the ground and a privateer in space?

Kosree wrote:

Ground Neutral (aka True Neutral, who can fly either side) is worth 0 GCW points, AS WELL as does not get PvP kill counts

So you do get GCW points for 'factional privateers'? For example a pilot who's a rebel on the ground and a privateer in space?

Hmm, I'm not sure why. Is this all neutral pilots or only pilots who's also neutral on the ground?

Wicoe wrote:

Hjal wrote:

jascenjerreck wrote:

Hjal wrote:

 

Just a quick note since it seems to have been an exciting couple of days on the forums. I've been knocked out by the flu so I haven't acted (or responded) to any of the feedback yet. I should be back to work tomorrow.

I'm going to look at making some of the suggested restrictions to the command. I expect that restricting movement will be the easiest, it would also give the person going overt a chance to change his mind.

Hopefully, once GU16 hits TC/TC-Prime we'll be able to get some firsthand experience with this and other changes.

The commands are currently called something like /spacePvpRebel and /spacePvpImperial

It allows Neutrals to flag themselves for PvP as well. Like factional player, you have to land or die to stop being flagged for PvP

feel better m8...some good ideas

any way we can get gcw for killing neutrals that are flagged?

 

 

Basically it'll work the same as deep space. If you'd get GCW points in deep space, you'll get GCW points with the command.

We don't get GCW for killing Nuetrels in DS.

Hmm, I'm not sure why. Is this all neutral pilots or only pilots who's also neutral on the ground?

Basically it'll work the same as deep space. If you'd get GCW points in deep space, you'll get GCW points with the command.

jascenjerreck wrote:

Hjal wrote:

 

Just a quick note since it seems to have been an exciting couple of days on the forums. I've been knocked out by the flu so I haven't acted (or responded) to any of the feedback yet. I should be back to work tomorrow.

I'm going to look at making some of the suggested restrictions to the command. I expect that restricting movement will be the easiest, it would also give the person going overt a chance to change his mind.

Hopefully, once GU16 hits TC/TC-Prime we'll be able to get some firsthand experience with this and other changes.

The commands are currently called something like /spacePvpRebel and /spacePvpImperial

It allows Neutrals to flag themselves for PvP as well. Like factional player, you have to land or die to stop being flagged for PvP

feel better m8...some good ideas

any way we can get gcw for killing neutrals that are flagged?

 

Basically it'll work the same as deep space. If you'd get GCW points in deep space, you'll get GCW points with the command.

HA! I can shoot you down from ANY point in ANY system in under three minutes!! (ok so I would be cheating.. but it's the thought that counts right?!)

Real_Men_of_Genius wrote:

Kosree wrote:

It literally took only FOUR minutes FLAT for Hjal to respond to a PM just now. How much dedication and willingness to help a frustrating community (ESPECIALLY a minority group) does a dev have to show, before we get our acts together and stop namecalling and actually work together?

 

Note: Hjal is now sending info on Vendor Search: Item Attributes -> Shield front/rear, weapon min/max (ship) on to Q to check if they can put it in Bugs...

 

I PM'd him at 8:45:10 PM CST, and I received that response at :8:49:10 PM CST...

 

That's right, you can't beat that...so let's show him we can actually be deserving of such attention, dedication, and patience.

 

 

 

HEY, I can go overt and get to ANY point in ANY system in space in under THREE minutes right now!

Beat THAT, Hjal!

 

HA! I can shoot you down from ANY point in ANY system in under three minutes!! (ok so I would be cheating.. but it's the thought that counts right?!)

Just a quick note since it seems to have been an exciting couple of days on the forums. I've been knocked out by the flu so I haven't acted (or responded) to any of the feedback yet. I should be back to work tomorrow.

I'm going to look at making some of the suggested restrictions to the command. I expect that restricting movement will be the easiest, it would also give the person going overt a chance to change his mind.

Hopefully, once GU16 hits TC/TC-Prime we'll be able to get some firsthand experience with this and other changes.

The commands are currently called something like /spacePvpRebel and /spacePvpImperial

It allows Neutrals to flag themselves for PvP as well. Like factional player, you have to land or die to stop being flagged for PvP

Just a quick note since it seems to have been an exciting couple of days on the forums. I've been knocked out by the flu so I haven't acted (or responded) to any of the feedback yet. I should be back to work tomorrow.

I'm going to look at making some of the suggested restrictions to the command. I expect that restricting movement will be the easiest, it would also give the person going overt a chance to change his mind.

Hopefully, once GU16 hits TC/TC-Prime we'll be able to get some firsthand experience with this and other changes.

The commands are currently called something like /spacePvpRebel and /spacePvpImperial

It allows Neutrals to flag themselves for PvP as well. Like factional player, you have to land or die to stop being flagged for PvP